Jools Lebron, the creator of 'very demure, very mindful,' might not own its trademark

The TikTokker says she "dropped the ball, " which could have financial repercussions.
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Jools Lebron is "very demure, very mindful."
Jools Lebron is "very demure, very mindful." Credit: TikTok screenshot / Jools Lebron @joolieannie

TikTok creator Jool Lebron popularized the viral phrase "very demure, very mindful." But she isn't the person getting the trademark.

Jefferson Bates, a Washington State man who appears not to be very demure or mindful, filed to trademark the phrase. According to legal documents obtained by NBC News and TMZ, Bates filed the request but did not name Lebron in the application.

In a since-deleted video on TikTok, Lebron said she "dropped the ball" on not trademarking it sooner.


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"I’ve just invested so much money and time into this," Lebron said in a TikTok video that Pop Crave posted on X before Lebron deleted it. "And I feel like I did it wrong. I feel like I didn’t try hard enough. I wanted this to do so much for my family and provide for my transition, and I just feel like I dropped the ball. Like, I feel like I fucked up, and someone else has it now. I don’t even know what I could’ve done better because I didn’t have the resources."

However, whether or not the trademark application is approved, Lebron lives in an entirely different world today than before her phrase went viral. She now has over two million followers on TikTok and has skyrocketed to internet fame. Lebron has seen a lot of success from the viral phrase, including appearing on Jimmy Kimmel Live!, creating videos with Verizon and Southwest Airlines, and earning enough money to help finance her transition.

Still, not having the trademark for the phrase "very demure, very mindful " could halt some of that influx of money. If the trademark application is approved, she won't be able to legally make and sell merchandise, for instance.

Not very demure. Not very mindful.

Topics TikTok

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Christianna Silva
Senior Culture Reporter

Christianna Silva is a senior culture reporter covering social platforms and the creator economy, with a focus on the intersection of social media, politics, and the economic systems that govern us. Since joining Mashable in 2021, they have reported extensively on meme creators, content moderation, and the nature of online creation under capitalism.

Before joining Mashable, they worked as an editor at NPR and MTV News, a reporter at Teen Vogue and VICE News, and as a stablehand at a mini-horse farm. You can follow her on Bluesky @christiannaj.bsky.social and Instagram @christianna_j.

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